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Andrei Barbu

answered Can someone please identify this font? (COURIER de MOLDAVIE)

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Andrei Barbu

Hi, I found this on first romanian newspaper from Feb/18/1790 and was just wondering what is the font used in this title and body text. Can you help me to identify the origins? Thanks :)

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Andrei Barbu

I think I found the same font in another newspaper from 1922, in a good quality of print. 

C2D078A2-4018-44B8-AFE7-0731AF02F63F.jpeg

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Kevin Thompson

I’m afraid they aren’t the same typeface.

Your 1922 sample appears to be Ronaldson, introduced by MacKellar, Smith & Jordan in 1884.

I’ll have to do some work on the other samples in Photoshop to see if I can get a decent enough image to match....

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Kevin Thompson

The nameplate (Courier de Moldavie)—type and image—is likely one entire hand-engraved block.

The body copy appears to be an early Garamond/Jannon face, but there isn’t enough detail in your samples to pin it down further.

 

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Andrei Barbu

Thanks Kevin.

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Andrei Barbu

I think I found the typeface for body text :) Caslon - English Roman

William Caslon's 1734 Specimen sheet.

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Kevin Thompson

Sorry, not Caslon.

The Rs, Js, and Cs in your sample differ too much from Caslon to be the same face....

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Andrei Barbu

Check "English Roman" version. Apparently it seems that the characteristics fit.

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Kevin Thompson

Similar, yes, but I’m still not convinced.

Caslon wasn’t widely used on the continent (England and the American Colonies, yes, Europe, no) in the late 18th century. It’s unlikely that a French language publication would use it in that era.

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Andrei Barbu

I read that the letters for this print were brought from Poland, and from this point I deduced that the letters were easy to get from England. :(

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Kevin Thompson

I don’t think it was a case of access, but of politics—England and the continent were at odds during this time, and a French or Francophone publication using an English typeface strikes me as unlikely.

Some history on Polish printing of the era:

https://books.google.com/books?id=sbacAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA474&lpg=PA474&dq=18th+Century+POlish+type+foundries?&source=bl&ots=xYc_GE-9KN&sig=-D3D8-czryRDDDMJmzgc3-Aks_Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYhMWT_d7XAhUP8YMKHau9AMwQ6AEINDAF#v=onepage&q=18th Century POlish type foundries%3F&f=false

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