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  3. CapeWRT

    The awesome Mac OS Catalina fonts you didn’t know you had access to

    Do I assume there is no way to utilize these new system fonts on older systems (High Sierra)? - I only have MB Pro (early 2013). Be nice if possible... Any advice (besides buy new Mac)?... Thanx, Bill T
  4. Soren Severin

    The awesome Mac OS Catalina fonts you didn’t know you had access to

    Great, thank you.
  5. Ralf Herrmann

    The awesome Mac OS Catalina fonts you didn’t know you had access to

    The Mac OS Eula applies. Like with other bundled OS fonts, there are very few restrictions. You just can’t move the files away from the system and you can’t override the embedding restrictions. Here is the Eula: https://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macOSCatalina.pdf The relevant part is:
  6. Richard

    The awesome Mac OS Catalina fonts you didn’t know you had access to

    I have always wondered how is with the licensing of the these ‘system fonts’. Let’s say i do use the Proxima Nova in my commercial print design/video production. I did not actively ‘pirated’ the font, yet it is natively part of my type dropdown. Others will have to cash out few hundred dollars to get them to even appear there. What is the right way to approach this? Should one always check that font they use is commercially available and if so than to pay the licence?
  7. Soren Severin

    The awesome Mac OS Catalina fonts you didn’t know you had access to

    Great, but what about license details – what kind of usage is permitted? I can't seem to find any EULAs anywhere. Is it for instance permitted to use the fonts to create brand marks – that might be copyrighted? Does anybody know where to find legal information about usage rights?
  8. Riccardo Sartori

    Unfinished lists

    Adding to list № 3: Nichrome
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  10. Riccardo Sartori

    Glorious Glyphs Quiz

    “Test your font ID chops in this new game”
  11. garrettstoffel

    The awesome Mac OS Catalina fonts you didn’t know you had access to

    I can find every font listed except Proxima Nova. And thats the one that I got excited for.
  12. Albert-Jan Pool

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    hmm … I think that the measure of type height is illustrated wrong here … For the letterpress printer, the total height of the letters was the only relevant measure. It is called ‘letterhoogte’ in Dutch and ‘Schrifthöhe’ in German (Bohadti 1954). The measure of the beard usually varies between type founders. It is the printing press which defines the type height of the letters that could be used on that specific press. That measure is critical, because many printers used letters from different type founders on the same press. Normally, a letterpress printer would specify the type height which suited his or her printing press when ordering type from a foundry. In Hoffman’s Der Schriftgießer you’ll find German-French(!), Austrian, Russian, Dutch, Belgian and English type height / Schrifthöhe. The difference between the largest (Russian) and the smallest (English) measure as listed is almost 4 Didot points.
  13. Ralf Herrmann

    answered Rock N Roller Coaster Disney Hollywood Studios

    You won’t be able to typeset this in any way. It’s heavily customized and stretched. If you need to replicate it, your best chance would be to find the original designer and ask for the files.
  14. Albert-Jan Pool

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    Thanks for pointing at @Ralf Herrmann’s thread on ‘difficult term definitions’! Unfortunately, images made by geeks (also those at what is now referred to as ‘the real FontShop’) should be handled with care …
  15. Albert-Jan Pool

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    Thanks! I just discovered that Safari only displays the first three images and Google Chrome displays ten! Sorry for the confusion. For now, I am eager to know what that something is which is writen before ‘Beard’ ;–)
  16. Kat925

    answered Rock N Roller Coaster Disney Hollywood Studios

    Anyone able to help with this? I am still looking but have been striking out! Thanks!
  17. Riccardo Sartori

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    Briefly discussed here:
  18. Riccardo Sartori

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    When the video is in a list, or embedded.
  19. Riccardo Sartori

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    This: (notice there’s something written before “Beard”.)
  20. Albert-Jan Pool

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    Thanks for your quick reply Riccardo! Sorry, maybe I’m too unfamiliar with YouTube videos and their ‘special effects’. Where can I find that thumbnail? But when it comes to beard, it seems that the term is used for two different things. The same goes for ‘shoulder’ I think. And what exactly can/should be seen on this page? I’m afraid that I do not get the clue … No beard, but ‘instead’ I encountered a strange interpretation of an ‘aperture’. To me most letters have one (c, b, d, p, q, o) or more counters (a, g, e), be it the white space enclosed by the black letterform. In this sense, the white form is the counter form to the black form. Just as the counterpunch creates the counter form of/into a punch as described in Fred Smeijers: Counterpunch, making type in the sixteenth century, designing typefaces now. Hyphen Press, London 1996. And some counters (such as c, e and h, n, u) usually have an aperture. I do not see why the counter itself should be ‘renamed’ when it has an aperture.
  21. Donatas

    The best free sans serif font families

    This list should be updated with more modern typefaces: Inter (https://rsms.me/inter/) DM Sans & DM Serif Display / Text, commisioned by Google Spartan - a Google Fonts fork of Spartan MB Jost - by Indestructible Type
  22. Riccardo Sartori

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    To be fair, in the page I linked to the complete term is “beard line”. It does not, it is simply used as a thumbnail. But I found other similar ones that confirm the definition linked by Ralf (incuding the one on this page that hints at multiple terms for the feature).
  23. Albert-Jan Pool

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    The part of the letter as referred to in the image from Letter Printing Process (when does the image appear in the video?) is called ‘Konus’ in German (in English: cone). It is described as such in Hermann Hoffman: Der Schriftgießer, Ein Lehrbuch für das Gewerbe. Verein Deutscher Schriftgießereien e.V., Leipzig 1927 and in Gustav Bohadti: Die Buchdruckletter, Ein Handbuch für das Schriftgießerei- und Buchdruckgewerbe. Ullstein AG, Berlin 1954. In Dutch it is called ‘talud’ (in English: slope).
  24. Albert-Jan Pool

    Type anatomy: The term 'beard'

    I’d suggest that the beard is the space between the baseline and the bottom of the body. In the context of the other terms on the image shown above, this is the only description that makes sense to me. I do not see why a beard would relate to something like a ‘descender line’, simply because a beard is not a line. To a descender? Yes, in the case we use it to describe the space used by descenders and the like, such as in the PostScript Language. But when on The Basics of Typography it is suggested that there should be such a thing a a beard line, we also have a beard. And when the beard line describes the lower end of the beard, the beard itself clearly is the the space between the baseline and the bottom of the body. Looking at the image from Letter Printing Process (b.t.w. I have never seen a type setter holding a composing stick like that) we either use the same term to describe various parts of a (metal) letter, or the placement of the arrow is wrong and Collins related to the image without questioning it. The ‘projection on the bottom right of the Capital G’ is usually referred to a spur, but in the 19th century this (optional) part of G was sometimes shaped with a curl to the right. Therefore, ‘beard’ may have seemed to be more appropriate for some time in some cases. In Dutch printers terminology we have the word baardwit (beard white). According to the book Typografie, uitgangspunten, richtlijnen, techniek by Tom Bolder, Joost Klinkenberg, Huib van Krimpen, Stefan Henning, Paul Mijksenaar, Bart Oosterhoorn, Kees Ruyter and Wim Westerveld, issued by GOC-Uitgeverij and Gaade Uitgevers in 1990, baardwit is defined as follows: handzetterm: wit tussen de basislijn en de onderkant van de staartletters. This translates into: hand setting term: white space between the baseline and the bottom of the descenders.
  25. davepp

    Ivy Ivy by Daylight Fonts

    This is exquisite!
  26. Gecko

    answered SUN retro laundry powder logo identification

    SUN is customised but more than likely began with Futura Extra Bold. Sunshine Fresh is Helvetica Black Oblique New Fresh Scent is Helvetica Condensed Black Oblique The suspect the rest of all the type is all different weights and widths of Helvetica.
  27. Joe Vains

    The awesome Mac OS Catalina fonts you didn’t know you had access to

    Thank you very much for this tip. Just to be able to use Proxima Nova is great news!
  28. Hey guys, Could anyone please help me to identify the fonts on the SUN laundry detergent packaging from the 90s? It would be great if someone can identify the SUN logo text and the descriptions. If not the same font, a similar one would be great! Thanks in advance.
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