Member ebe… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 This topic was imported from the Typophile platform The Languages we already have are now compiled into two documents - a .txt file and a reference PDF version. This is version 1.2 You can download the PDF & txt at the bottom of this post. There is also an RTF file but Typophile does not support posting that file type. If you want that contact me & I will email it to you. Last Updated: October 18, 2007 Please help the project: It's fun, quick & kinda cool! Please use the the downloadable files as a guide for adding languages or improving the ones we already have. Langauages we still need include: - Afrikaans - Albanian - Azeri - Croatian - Estonian - Hausa - Indonesian - Latvian - Lithuanian - Malaysian - Romanian - Tagalog, - Yoruba, and others. Languages that are seemingly complete include*: - Basque - Latin - Danish - Dutch - English - Finnish - French - German - Hungarian - Icelandic - Italian - Lingala - Norwegian - Polish - Portuguese - Slovenian - Spanish - Swahili - Swedish - Turkish Thanks! Attachment Size Languages at a glance.v1.2.txt 49 KB Languages at a glance.v1.2.pdf 107.82 KB Link to comment
Member fal… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 In Polish there are some short sentences containing all accented letters (and they all make sense): "Zażółć gęślą jaźń". (a classic) "Książęcych spóźnień czułość". "Pójdźże, kiń tę chmurność w głąb flaszy!" "Źle, żółw na starość wydziela wstrętną woń". "Późną nocą grań olśniła księżyca jasność". "Pchnąć w tę łódź jeża lub ośm skrzyń fig". "Różowy słoń ma usiąść na tępych gwoździach". "Stań i żółty liść pachnącej mięty weź". More here. _______ ALlenart.pl Link to comment
Member Ree… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Since there are a number of fluent Spanish speakers on this board, I'm not going to embarass myself trying to create a list (unless no one else chimes in). But I am pretty sure that Spanish has a dearth of double-letter combinations. My classmates constantly make the mistake of using double-s's, double-f's, double-m's, double-p's, etc., which do not exist in Spanish as far as I know. Only rr and ll occur naturally. Maybe there are some loan words from English or other languages that do have other double letters, but I don't know of them. So I guess the question is, should this list contain examples of all three types for every language or just for the languages in which they naturally occur? Maybe this is a bit picky when this project is just getting off the ground, but it's what I thought of first. Link to comment
Member mil… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Aleksander, that's impressive! Auricfuzz, in my Finnish list there are many words missing, just because they don't exist in Finnish (no words with double-x or ending with k, for example). I don't know how Eben would like to deal with the missing letters. Link to comment
Member lor… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Double letters? That's Italian! I'll start a list in Italian and another in Portuguese if that's ok but I'll probably need help finishing it (Alessandro, Manlio for Italian?), it's a busy period but the project is intriguing and too tempting. Ok, let me concentrate... Link to comment
Member Ale… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 some spanish words with doble letters zapallo, caballo, semilla, estampilla, lluvia, llorar, capilla, etc secarropas, arroz, carroza, marrón, perro, cerrajero, etc Link to comment
Member ebe… Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Regarding double letters an their non existance in some languages: In a case where a a given letter is not doubled then a word where the letter appears in the middle is a good substitute I think. Looking at Just van Rossum, & Peter Biľak's Letter frequency Meter ( http://just.letterror.com/ltrwiki/LetterFrequencyMeter ) I also thought about trying to get a deliberate mixture of straight sided & round sized for each letter , and both sides of each, to make the list stronger still. But maybe the best place for that is in the brute force testing model which I am also working on. So I am leaning that way for now because I think brevity is part of what makes this tool appealing. Do you agree? The thing about this project is that it isn't really a substitute for an organzed brute force approach to testing where you can look at any & all combinations of glyphs & it is not a substitute for setting a longer text either. It's not even a substitute for pangrams really. But before you test a font with a longer text I think a quick check using a test like this might reveal a problems that would take longer to find using any of the other methods. Mostly though I think this tool is a way of seeing how another language feels in your type design so you can see if your kerning is going well for that language, to see if the ascennders and decenders are working nicely, and to see how your CE glyphs with diacritics feel. Alejandro, would you be willing to do the Spanish one or part of it? Lorenza, Thank you! That sounds great! Aleksander, Would you do the Polish? Link to comment
Member Mis… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Miguel Sousa's Adhesion Text has several different languages, including Spanish. I'm sure it would be helpful in the least. Sample: Únelo meros golf, vago herraste, aro lictor labia. Enlace fax lar escolimoso, cuy, sao risas tremebunda. Vacó daga, fuer, cobaya pudor lazarían recocidas, licores ah ibas. Limo, tul. Avenido, leváis ultraja, substanciáramos familiarizar bailado, e, sanee, palo, verminoso falte. Mirlásemos evaporaríamos, ni otor negándonos, i encabestrarse, nota u cele se suegra, roa, ole inmodestas ábrenos, elude. Fisonómicos ver, deseabas cu. A vea, paga. Y, georgia miosis le, abad ó ñ, jaurías discernido. En, poro, cresta. Aminorabas vil, ajo, ka, les cantillo arqueozoología, flan, violare, plantón. Apoye, fe, oh, dina, ladrillal, mutuo as sí ñoro persevera, lija mendrugos. U leo, quilla timarte iba musitamos purificará, atorar, ato desenfunde ladran. Moro extraembrionaria trabajadores ensañases embrease, e. Ruco acólito, de, urú leeréis animó o, calmara los, teclear, le, basa. Phi has, cedan, pesa boj zeta. Bah, hela ribete i fa gro, a upa trasunté. Mal o, la fue hazas esclerosis curare, imantan, oirá vuele, fez desactivó, paralelizarse. Ojazo ay, laza ice, ido, e, cacho, crepitan ya trayéndola lujo folladas caliza. Tire mulo misar, abrí, envejeceremos quedos valorarnos, lacearais, canacos taxi. Amañando, activara, electrizándoles kas incaico, nido ce, ro, desconocía, salve. Xi, ce, gacha. Sucu os peligrosa, miman, lima. Visivas laza te frenos agarraros, memos. Corso mu, perfilar excluyas agre, yo loco acata ronques, bajío sol, e, dardo niñeó eh, oes. Dilectos, arbitrándome, dalla. Situé, ene, remango zuma ampara, u inflases, mela, tino escariados, rezaríais literaria. Descargarais, remendó, embalsamando fe, lee, ocúltense, ó nu mal rosas si. O, oso pon, ceca son tex, anticuadas, disiparías matee alas apoastro, doy, la mohosas. Abordadas tupí, funden, des, relegamos red, oteas, parca, mitigue. Ubre adelantaseis, barbirralo te en, e, dome meo ñ, cama necesitases, dude encañona, sicu. Irme ova samblajes, pene, entramada. Deleitaréis, baos bruña alzasen, céfiro suecos e, anticonstitucionales. Y, dio limada ex, óbito duda, muden. Link to comment
Member fal… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 OK, Polish version as follows: [edit: reformatted] Aa: abażur, Abażur, ABAŻUR mrówka, Mrówka, MRÓWKA zaangażować, Zaangażować, ZAANGAŻOWAĆ Ąą: - wchrzanią, Wchrzanią, WCHRZANIĄ - Bb: brzdąc, Brzdąc, BRZDĄC dziób, Dziób, DZIÓB hobbistka, Hobbistka, HOBBISTKA Cc: czułość, Czułość, CZUŁOŚĆ makowiec, Makowiec, MAKOWIEC giżycczanka, Giżycczanka, GIŻYCCZANKA Ćć: ćwierćinteligent, Ćwierćinteligent, ĆWIERĆINTELIGENT żółć, Żółć, ŻÓŁĆ - Dd: dentystka, Dentystka, DENTYSTKA bezład, Bezład, BEZŁAD oddłużenie, Oddłużenie, ODDŁUŻENIE Ee: edukacja, Edukacja, EDUKACJA budzenie, Budzenie, BUDZENIE teleelektronika, Teleelektronika, TELEELEKTRONIKA Ęę: - szczenię, Szczenię, SZCZENIĘ - Ff: figlarz, Figlarz, FIGLARZ cyrograf, Cyrograf, CYROGRAF offsetowy, Offsetowy, OFFSETOWY Gg: gardziel, Gardziel, GARDZIEL pług, Pług, PŁUG jogging, Jogging, JOGGING Hh: hulajnoga, Hulajnoga, HULAJNOGA łasuch, Łasuch, ŁASUCH - Ii: igiełka, Igiełka, IGIEŁKA cążki, Cążki, CĄŻKI - Jj: jałowcówka, Jałowcówka, JAŁOWCÓWKA łój, Łój, ŁÓJ trójjęzyczność, Trójjęzyczność, TRÓJJĘZYCZNOŚĆ Kk: kartusz, Kartusz, KARTUSZ cycek, Cycek, CYCEK lekkoatletka, Lekkoatletka, LEKKOATLETKA Ll: liryczny, Liryczny, LIRYCZNY bajzel, Bajzel, BAJZEL flotylla, Flotylla, FLOTYLLA Łł: łyko, Łyko, ŁYKO bęcwał, Bęcwał, BĘCWAŁ mułła, Mułła, MUŁŁA Mm: maczuga, Maczuga, MACZUGA łam, Łam, ŁAM mammologia, Mammologia, MAMMOLOGIA Nn: natarcie, Natarcie, NATARCIE żargon, Żargon, ŻARGON chłonność, Chłonność, CHŁONNOŚĆ Oo: okólnik, Okólnik, OKÓLNIK mydło, Mydło, MYDŁO poobdzierany, Poobdzierany, POOBDZIERANY Óó: ósemka, Ósemka, Ósemka - - Pp: pępek, Pępek, PĘPEK słup, Słup, SŁUP hippika, Hippika, HIPPIKA Rr: różany, Różany, RÓŻANY transformator, Transformator, TRANSFORMATOR irracjonalny, Irracjonalny, IRRACJONALNY Ss: sękacz, Sękacz, SĘKACZ wąs, Wąs, WĄS transseksualistka, Transseksualistka, TRANSSEKSUALISTKA Tt: tarmosił, Tarmosił, TARMOSIŁ tętent, Tętent, TĘTENT pięćsettysięcznik, Pięćsettysięcznik, PIĘĆSETTYSIĘCZNIK Uu: urżnąć, Urżnąć, URŻNĄĆ łubudu, Łubudu, ŁUBUDU indywiduum, Indywiduum, INDYWIDUUM Vv: varia, Varia, VARIA - - Ww: wizażysta, Wizażysta, WIZAŻYSTA odpływ, Odpływ, ODPŁYW wwóz, Wwóz, WWÓZ Xx: xenia, Xenia, XENIA (*) - - Yy: yeti, Yeti, YETI chorąży, Chorąży, CHORĄŻY - Zz: zadymka, Zadymka, ZADYMKA wiąz, Wiąz, WIĄZ rozzłoszczenie, Rozzłoszczenie, ROZZŁOSZCZENIE Źź: źdźbło, Źdźbło, ŹDŹBŁO niedźwiedź, Niedźwiedź, NIEDŹWIEDŹ - Żż: żałość, Żałość, ŻAŁOŚĆ łupież, Łupież, ŁUPIEŻ - (*) Foreign Words Dictionary, sometimes used in written language That was fun! Note that in Polish commonly appearing pairs of consonants like "ch", "cz", "dz", "dź", "dż", "rz", "sz" are pronounced as one sound so they could be considered as special ligatures. _______ ALlenart.pl Link to comment
Member lor… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Ok, this is a start...I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing here but please feel free to add/savage/edit, whatever. It's just a start and I wasn't incredibly inspired today... Link to comment
Member lor… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 ITALIAN (some have been left blank because there isn't any word like that or beccause I can't find it) A acqua, Acqua, ACQUA alterigia, Alterigia, ALTERIGIA aiuole Aiuole AIUOLE B bigotto, Bigotto, BIGOTTO febbriccitante, Febbriccitante, FEBBRICITANTE - C Capzioso, Capzioso, CAPZIOSO peccatore, Peccatore, PECCATORE - D deviazione, Deviazione, DEVIAZIONE addio, Addio, ADDIO - E esile, Esile, ESILE assemblee, Assemblee, ASSEMBLEE notte, Notte, NOTTE F fischiettare, Fischiettare, FISCHIETTARE afflato, Afflato, AFFLATO - G gemelli, Gemelli, GEMELLI leggendario, Leggendario, LEGGENDARIO - H - - - I inequivocabilmente Inequivocabilmente INEQUIVOCABILMENTE - lunedì, Lunedì, LUNEDÌ L lunatico, Lunatico, LUNATICO scellerato, Scellerato, SCELLERATO - M malanimo, Malanimo, MALANIMO immagine, Immagine. IMMAGINE - N nequizia, nequizia, NEQUIZIA condanna, Condanna, CONDANNA - O obliquo, Obliquo, OBLIQUO scricchiolio, Scricchiolio, SCRICCHIOLIO oggetto, Oggetto, OGGETTO P panegirico, Panegirico, PANEGIRICO dappertutto, Dappertutto, DAPPERTUTTO - Q quanto, Quanto, QUANTO - - R robusto, Robusto, ROBUSTO arroganza, Arroganza, ARROGANZA - S scherno, Scherno, SCHERNO assassino, Assassino, ASSASSINO - T tizio, Tizio, TIZIO legittima, Legittima, LEGITTIMA - U Unità, Unità, UNITÀ - - V vorace, Vorace, VORACE sopravvivere, Sopravvivere, SOPRAVVIVERE - Z zattera, Zattera, ZATTERA singhiozzi, Singhiozzi, SINGHIOZZI - Link to comment
Member lor… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 PORTUGUESE (based on Brazilian Portuguese, it might work for Portugal too but it needs to be checked. I inserted the words suggested by Barbara Emanuel) A argüição, Argüição, ARGÜIÇÃO - cãibra, Cãibra, CÃIBRA B Baía, Baía, BAÍA - - C conseqüência, Conseqüência, CONSEQÜÊNCIA - - D Detalhe, Detalhe, DETALHE - - E engrenagem, Engrenagem, ENGRENAGEM empreendedor, empreendedor, EMPREENDEDOR coice, Coice, COICE F Fugaz, Fugaz, FUGAZ - - G grão, Grão, GRÃO - - H hierarquia, Hierarquia, HIERARQUIA - - I interlúdio, Interlúdio, INTERLÚDIO niilista, Niilista, NIILISTA organdi, Organdi, ORGANDI J justaposição, Justaposição, JUSTAPOSIÇÃO - - L lixívia, Lixívia, LIXÍVIA, - inesquecível, Inesquecível, INESQUECÍVEL M monções, Monções, MONÇÕES - trem, Trem, TREM N ninho, Ninho, NINHO - neon, Neon, NÉON O Orquídea, orquídea, ORQUÍDEA - contexto, Contexto, CONTEXTO P pinhão, Pinhão, PINHÃO - - Q qualquer, Qualquer, QUALQUER - - R riqueza, Riqueza, RIQUEZA barreira, Barreira, BARREIRA peculiar, Peculiar, PECULIAR S símbolo, Símbolo, SÍMBOLO expressão, Expressão, EXPRESSÃO grátis, Grátis, GRÁTIS T transcender, Transcender, TRANSCENDER - - U urbano, Urbano, URBANO - ateu, Ateu, ATEU V Vulgar, Vulgar, VULGAR - - X Xadrez, Xadrez, XADREZ - cóccix, Cóccix, CÓCCIX Z Zumbido, Zumbido, ZUMBIDO - Luz, Luz, LUZ Link to comment
Member Kri… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 French Aa: avenir Avenir AVENIR aubergine Aubergine AUBERGINE ma Ma MA Bb: botte Botte BOTTE brusque Brusque BRUSQUE Cc: carnet Carnet CARNET accent Accent ACCENT blanc Blanc BLANC Dd: dommage Dommage DOMMAGE marchand Marchand MARCHAND Ee: exemple Exemple EXEMPLE féerique Féerique FÉERIQUE mange Mange MANGE Ff: faible Faible FAIBLE effort Effort EFFORT souffrant Souffrant SOUFFRANT bref Bref BREF Gg: guise Guise GUISE rang Rang RANG Hh: hiver Hiver HIVER Ii: ignoble Ignoble IGNOBLE triions Triions TRIIONS ami Ami AMI Jj: jamais Jamais JAMAIS Kk: kilogramme Kilogramme KILOGRAMME kayak Kayak KAYAK Ll: lutin Lutin LUTIN meilleur Meilleur MEILLEUR pareil Pareil PAREIL Mm: manger Manger MANGER inconsciemment Inconsciemment INCONSCIEMMENT Nn: noyer Noyer NOYER ennuyant Ennuyant ENNUYANT non Non NON Oo: ouvert Ouvert OUVERT zoophobie Zoophobie ZOOPHOBIE Pp: population Population POPULATION application Application APPLICATION Qq: question Question QUESTION Rr: rigoleux Rigoleux RIGOLEUX barrage Barrage BARRAGE rougir Rougir ROUGIR Ss: soyeux Soyeux SOYEUX ressentir Ressentir RESSENTIR masques Masques MASQUES Tt: tuyau Tuyau TUYAU attention Attention ATTENTION chant Chant CHANT Uu: usure Usure USURE Vv: visuel Visuel VISUEL Ww: wagon Wagon WAGON Xx: xylophone Xylophone XYLOPHONE paix Paix PAIX Yy: yeux Yeux YEUX Zz: zeste Zeste ZESTE pizza Pizza PIZZA It's difficult to get a real sense of the words without including accented words. Link to comment
Member lor… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Not fair, Kristina, pizza is mine! Moderator! Link to comment
Member Mis… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Is Pizza a french word? I think not. I must side with Lore. ;^) Link to comment
Member ebe… Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 ha! Of course, in English (and other languages) there is often no word except for a loan word which will contain certain letter combinations. Thank you Kristina, Lorenza, Tiffany, Aleksander and Miguel ! Adhesion text is amazing and wonderful. Link to comment
Member dav… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Turkish (good for you, Eben? I need another day to type the rest :^) ) arkadașlariyla, çocuğun, milliyetçilerinden, Öğretmen, konușuyorsun Link to comment
Member ebe… Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Yes, Turkish would be great to have! Link to comment
Member gui… Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Okay, time for the Spanish. The only letters that can be doubled are vowels, n, l, c, and r. It's technically possible to have a double s in voseo regions or in Spain where the os reflexive could be used in conjunction with the indirect le morphed into an indirect se due to a final third-person direct object, but besides the fact that A- it's pretty unlikely (I can only ever think of quite off the wall statements to line all of them up), I'm quite sure the RAE's position is that it's reduced to a single s. In old Spanish, however, it was quite common though, used in the same areas where for instance Modern Portuguese would use ss. Ll was prior to ’94 sorted as a separate letter, but I'm including it (as well as ch) as I suppose for people making specifically Spanish-use fonts it could open up some interesting design considerations (the font used by Cátedra kerns the c and h when together a bit closer than normal. Also, note that the accents are not required on capital vowels (Ñ always has accent), but especially in modern times they are almost always included. A: [ animal, Animal, ANIMAL - manzana, Manzana, MANZANA 2 portaaviones, Portaaviones, PORTAAVIONES ] pantera, Pantera, PANTERA Á: [ águila, Águila, ÁGUILA - matemáticas, Matemáticas, MATEMÁTICAS ] nadará, Nadará, NADARÁ B: [ bebida, Bebida, BEBIDA - caballo, Caballo, CABALLO *] club, Club, CLUB C: [ claro, Claro, CLARO - acontecimiento, Acontecimiento, ACONTECIMIENTO 2 inspección, Inspección, INSPECCIÓN *] coñac, Coñac, COÑAC Ch: [ charlar, Charlar, CHARLAR - mancha, Mancha, MANCHA *] sándwich, Sándwich, SÁNDWICH D: [ demonio, Demonio, DEMONIO - nadar, Nadar, NADAR ] ciudad, Ciudad, CIUDAD E: [ escuchar, Escuchar, ESCUCHAR - competir, Competir, COMPETIR 2 creer, Creer, CREER ] independiente, Independiente, INDEPENDIENTE É: [ éramos, Éramos, ÉRAMOS - atlético, Atlético, ATLÉTICO ] haré, Haré, HARÉ F: [ fonólogo, Fonólogo, FONÓLOGO - africción, Africción, AFRICCIÓN *] golf, Golf, GOLF G: [ gasolina, Gasolina, GASOLINA - paragüeño, Paragüeño, PARAGÜEÑO *] gong, Gong, GONG H: [ hielo, Hielo, HIELO - deshacer, Deshacer, DESHACER ] oh, Oh, OH / ah, Ah, AH I: [ intelectual, Intelectual, INTELECTUAL - miniatura, Miniatura, MINIATURA 2 [none] ] metrópoli, Metrópoli, METRÓPOLI Í: [ íntegra, Íntegra, ÍNTEGRA - mínimo, Mínimo, MÍNIMO ] albaní, Albaní, ALBANÍ J: [ jarra, Jarra, JARRA - sanguijuela, Sanguijuela, SANGUIJUELA ] reloj, Reloj, RELOJ K: *[ kilómetro, Kilómetro, KILÓMETRO *- afrikáner, Afrikáner, AFRIKÁNER *]yak, Yak, YAK L: [ lanza, Lanza, LANZA - aliviar, Aliviar, ALIVIAR ] vocacional, Vocacional, VOCACIONAL Ll: [ llamar, Llamar, LLAMAR - semilla, Semilla, SEMILLA ] [none] M: [ manera, Manera, MANERA - inmigración, Inmigración, INMIGRACIÓN *] quórum, Quorum, QUÓRUM N: [ natación, Natación, NATACIÓN - anaranjado, Anaranjado, ANARANJADO ] sensación, Sensación, SENSACIÓN Ñ: *[ ñandú, Ñandú, ÑANDÚ - señor, Señor, SEÑORA ] [none] O: [ oposición, Oposición, OPOSICIÓN - colombiano, Colombiano, COLOMBIANO 2 microonda, Microonda, MICROONDA ] estado, Estado, ESTADO P: [ perfecto, Perfecto, PERFECTO - septiembre, Septiembre, SEPTIEMBRE *] clip, Clip, CLIP Q: [ quehacer, Quehacer, QUEHACER - psiquiátrico, Psiquiátrico, PSIQUIÁTRICO ] [none] R: [ rellenar, Rellenar, RELLENAR - armas, Armas, ARMAS 2 correr, Correr, CORRER ] teclear, Teclear, TECLEAR S: [ soportar, Soportar, SOPORTAR - asimismo, Asimismo, ASIMISMO ] naciones, Naciones, NACIONES T: [ trabajo, Trabajo, TRABAJO - atento, Atento, ATENTO *] chalet, Chalet, CHALET U: [ unanimidad, Unanimidad, UNANIMIDAD - denuncia, Denuncia, DENUNCIA *2 duunviro *] espíritu, Espíritu, ESPÍRITU Ú: [ último - antepenúltimo, Antepenúltimo, ANTEPENÚLTIMO ] champú, Champú, CHAMPÚ Ü: [ [none] - vergüenza, Vergüenza, VERGÜENZA ] [none] V: [ versos, Versos, VERSOS - polvo, Polvo, POLVO ] [none] W: *[ watt, Watt, WATT *- sóftware, Sóftware, SÓFTWARE ] [none] X: [ xilófago, Xilófago, XILÓFAGO - exemplar, Exemplar, EXEMPLAR ] fénix, Fénix, FÉNIX Y: [ yegua, Yegua, YEGUA - desayunar, Desayunar, DESAYUNAR ] virrey, Virrey, VIRREY Z: [ zapatos, Zapatos, ZAPATOS - mozárabe, Mozárabe, MOZÁRABE ] rapidéz, Rapidéz, RAPIDÉZ * These formations are extremely rare and found either exclusively in loan words or with a total occurrence of about 1-5 native words. I hope that helps. «El futuro es una línea tan fina que apenas nos damos cuenta de pintarla nosotros mismos.» (La Luz Oscura, por Javier Guerrero) Link to comment
Member ebe… Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share Posted February 14, 2007 Extremely Pretty! And well done too. I do have one question about the format. Why do all of the last examples exists outside the braces? like this : " ] rapidéz, Rapidéz, RAPIDÉZ " I keep re-reading your text to find out but I can't see where that is explained. I was thinking of adopting the format for all the examples, so I want to understand it. Link to comment
Member gui… Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Well, I originally meant it to use greater-than and less-than signs, but apparently the forum backend was eating ’em, interpretting them as HTML mark-ups. I decided to go with open-bracket for a prime letter, and close bracket for a terminal letter. Hyphen is for a medial letter, and 2 for a double letter. Hence [ prime - medial 2 double ] terminal I could probably have come up with something snazzier but I was lazy :) «El futuro es una línea tan fina que apenas nos damos cuenta de pintarla nosotros mismos.» (La Luz Oscura, por Javier Guerrero) Link to comment
Member Qui… Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I might see if I can come up with such a list for Dutch. But maybe someone beats me to it. Link to comment
Member Kri… Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Pizza is in my Larousse. And, I am from Quebec where French is often largely English. (OK, that could be a really contentious subject. Let's not get into it...) I'll rephrase: It has been my experience that much of the French spoken here is English. I once worked at a gas station. A man came in and with great agitation asked if I spoke French, to which I replied "oui". He proceeded to ask, and I quote, "tu-peux-tu me caller un tow-truck, mon motor a stallé." I'm sure even those of you who speak no French could figure out what he meant. Call a tow truck. My motor stalled. Pizza is the least of the anglicizing that occurs. Also, in France, "parking" and "shopping" are more common than the French terms. Eben : Holler if you want French words with accents. K. Link to comment
Member tun… Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 gentilissima Lore I would add aiuole Aiuole AIUOLE inequivocabilmente Inequivocabilmente INEQUIVOCABILMENTE no double letters but with all the five vocals used in Italian ps: pizza is ours. r. Link to comment
Member tun… Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 One more in Italian: afflato Afflato AFFLATO: it could be useful for the ffl ligature r. Link to comment
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