Looking for the fonts for these two vintage watches

[morcheeba]

Hi guys, this is my first post here. I would like to know the kinds of fonts, or at the least similar fonts and/or the styles on these two vintage watches, particularly the numbers on the dials. I have tried looking but I couldn't find anything. 

 

This first one is approximately from the late 1930s to early 1940s. I am interested to know the fonts used for the hours.  

The second one is from the 1960s I'm also very interested to know the fonts used for the hour numbers. 

Both were made in Switzerland. 

Hoping to hear from the community. Thanks!

[Riccardo Sartori]

These are samples of lettering, not typefaces.

As for similar designs, I could not find anything like the second sample

For the first one, while the overall feeling points to technical typefaces like DIN, I think most of the specific features can be found in the admittedly less condensed Advertisers Gothic:

download at MyFonts

 

[Kevin Thompson]

Seconding Riccardo’s conclusion that these are examples of lettering, not typefaces.

For the second sample, The Fontry’s Excursions Alternate could be easily altered to match your sample (convert the glyphs to outlines in Illustrator or InDesign, and modify the Bezier curves).

Unfortunately, The Fontry’s website is a bit difficult to navigate, but I believe you can purchase the typeface solo (not as part of a larger pack).

[Riccardo Sartori]

1 hour ago, Kevin Thompson said:

The Fontry’s Excursions Alternate could be easily altered

The numbers can be seen on Phil's Fonts site.

Another option that would need to be modified:

download at MyFonts

 

[morcheeba]

Wow, thanks for the info and leads guys!