Ryan Maelhorn Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 This topic was imported from the Typophile platform discuss.. Link to comment
Nick Shinn Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Compacta is Todays Black Letter You lazy fellow, sloppy grammar and can’t even be bothered to start the thread with any content. Link to comment
Ryan Maelhorn Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 I had faith the content was already there in ten folds. Link to comment
zeno333 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well, first of all, there is no valid reason to call it Blackletter or to compare it to Blackletter....So IMHO there is nothing to discuss given your initial premise. Link to comment
Ryan Maelhorn Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 though I prefer Compacta, I would include in this, any other black, heavily condensed sans, such as Impact, Helvetica Compressed, etc... Three stroke widths wide... Four to Five stroke widths tall. This is today's black letter Link to comment
cerulean Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The analogy is incomplete. Compacta : Blackletter :: today : when? Link to comment
russellm Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 & beige is the new black? Link to comment
LexLuengas Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 And Agenda is today's Rotunda? C'mon... What's the actual statement behind "Compacta is Todays Black Letter"? Please elaborate. BTW Compacta is fifty years old. Link to comment
PublishingMojo Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Since blackletter was originally designed to make movable type look like the hand lettering of scribes, wouldn't the "new blackletter" be something like Bradley Hand? Link to comment
quadibloc Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 @PublishingMojo: You beat me to it. I was going to reply to the original question: No. Comic Sans is today's blackletter. Link to comment
zeno333 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I do not agree on that one....Blackletter was and is about more than just the handwriting of scribes, it is partly about decoration "for the sake of decoration", a concept that simply is not in the Bradly Hand typeface. There is some debate on the reasons behind the decoration of Blackleter, but even with that, the decoration for the sake of decoration is still there no matter what the reasons for it. Link to comment
PublishingMojo Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 @zeno: In that case, Compacta is the anti-blackletter, since it was produced at the height of Modernism, without a hint of gratuitous decoration. Link to comment
Nick Shinn Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 http://canadatype.net/fonts/bigfoot Link to comment
quadibloc Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Come to think of it, one of the properties of blackletter was that it was used for printing texts in the vernacular, while Roman was used for texts in Latin. Today, if different languages still use the Roman alphabet, usually the same typeface is used for both. But occasionally sans-serif typefaces are used for foreign languages just slightly more often than for English... thus, Pinyin in some dictionaries is in a particular sans-serif face; Univers is associated with continental Europe. So perhaps Roman is the new blackletter, if anything. If not, there's always Optima or Lydian... or even Radiant. (Or should I try to defend the notion that its cousin, Peignot Bold, is the "new blackletter" for our time?) Link to comment
Nick Shinn Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 John, we’re talking about “todays”, not way back back in the 20th century. (Cue Robin Williamson song…) Link to comment
hrant Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Ryan, you know that blackletter doesn't have to be dark, right? hhp Link to comment
Ryan Maelhorn Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Well as far as I'm aware, no, the darkness is very important to what blackletter is. That's where the name comes from, no? (so dark that there is more black(ink) on the page than white(space))? Link to comment
Joshua Langman Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 See Duc de Berry, Clairvaux, etc... Link to comment
hrant Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 American Indians were misnamed by ignorants too. hhp Link to comment
Ryan Maelhorn Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 The f uck? American Indians? Lol.. Okay, so there is a 'light' blackletter or something? I honestly have never heard of this. Link to comment
LexLuengas Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 When you refer to blackletter you're merely thinking of textura. Look at the rest of the family. Just put on your google goggles. Link to comment
Ryan Maelhorn Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yes, the Textura! But I thought Blackletter was the 'style' that defined textura? Link to comment
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