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dctroy
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Have you seen the new UPS logo? The original Paul Rand design (package tied up with string) has been replaced with a shield shape with a Photoshop emboss-type effect. I think it looks kind of like the RAID insecticide logo -- also screams "designed by committee."
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www.ups.com

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antiuser

It's odd that Rand himself offered to redesign the logo as he was admittedly 'uncomfortable' with parts of it, and UPS always declined... and now they come up with this swooshy 3D thing.

Am I the only one who thinks FF Dax was an odd choice (especially considering everyone and their dog are using it these days)? I don't know, but in my head the two (UPS and Dax) don't quite mix.

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anonymous

Whatever happened to figure/ground in logo designs? Did we collectively decide to forget gestalt psychology? Is there a memo I didn't get?

On the up side, at least there's no goddamned '@' sign or swoosh.

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Mark Simonson

Pretty alarming photo image on the UPS home page there--gives you the point of view of someone crouching on the median of a busy highway. What's next? Hanging over the top of a skyscrapper?

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pickles

Thats positively tame compared to BTs (British Telecom's) new adverts. They went and Chisel extruded some metallic grey text and then drop-shadowed it onto a red background. Its like all of a sudden British design is taking its influences from American banks and Bling-Bling Rap albums. Next thing you know, The Royal Bank of Scotland will Diamonte-encrust its logo or something. Hideous. So much for the reputation...

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sham

I'm not so sure - the top border of the new shield sure looks swooshy to me. I don't like the lightly tucked in sides either - trying to visually stress the 3d thing?

I thought they (UPS) were in a real mood of loving themselves. All the commericals about "brown" and now to go and change their logo is a bit disingenuous to me.

I think the new logo is trying to look important. Plus, I am the only one that thinks the stock photography people shots are silly? They keep showing people and computers, but no packages or people delivering them. Weird to me.

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hrant

> all of a sudden British design is taking
> its influences from American banks and
> Bling-Bling Rap albums.

There is no more Britain. It's now a US state.

> They keep showing people and computers

Because you don't get the masses' money by making them think it's about what they do/make/ship, but by making them think the world is about them. For example, what do you think the "i" in "iMac" stands for? It's all simply an appeal to vain narcisism. Me, myself and I and me and me and me. But of course the individuality is an illusion - it's confined to things like shampoo odors. This illusion (which actually extends to things like voting) is exactly what makes people easier to control, easier to trick into working hard and giving you their money.

hhp

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matha_standun

There is no more Britain. It's now a US state.

There's hope yet, Hrant. British soldiers are starting to complain about American attrocities in Iraq. Bodes well.

But of course the individuality is an illusion...

Remember the scene in The Life of Brian ?
Brian: "You're all individuals"
The crowd (with one voice): "Yes, we're all individuals"

On the subject of the UPS logo. They really had to do something. The vans looked old, the logo looked old and there was the new FedEx logo zooming all over town. Makes sense.

So much for the reputation...

What reputation?

Matha.

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anonymous

At least FedEx had the good sense to commission a nice, versitle, graphic logo (and I love the arrow counterform).
Then again, the humor of the FedEx logo, is that the arrow is always pointing the opposite direction the vans travel.
I have to assume the three-dimensional aspect is to reflect "depth", but it's one step shy of having a 3D spinning logo.

>> I thought they (UPS) were in a real mood of loving themselves. All the commericals about "brown" and now to go and change their logo is a bit disingenuous to me.

Good call...I thought that "brown" this was alot more intelligent than the new logo. It at least played on the company's strengths.

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beejay

The UPS logo makes me think of Park Service,
Park Ranger...Smokey the Bear delivering boxes?

I've been seeing the Quiznos redesign quite
a bit lately, and I cannot say it has grown on me.

This redesign makes the Subway redesign look
positively brilliant.

The old logo is in the typophile hall of shame
for those who have not seen it...

wait, click around on their site and you will
see the old logo AND the new logo.

www.quiznos.com

hmmm.

1. They took some left over swooshes from some
defunct dot-com and made a Q.
2. They now call it Quiznos sted of Quizno

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Joe Pemberton

I read that the original brown trucks and original logo were
meant to convey reliability in a way that government
organizations meant reliability (past tense). I can see how
their recent 'brown' campaign has tried to distance UPS
from that government image.

The new logo? It looks like design by committee. Or it could
just be design by Landor.

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tsprowl

I loved the write up justifying it all, especially when they need some long
winded PR person explaning it. "reflecting the new capabilities...corporate evolution"

like I said on another forum: I expect that these new capabilities include delivering pizza? I mean that look is quite prominent on all my 2 for 1 flyers.
So 'FutureBrand' (are they from the future?) used the default millenium swooch!?, how on earth can they claim to be the authority after this. If I were them I'd want my name taken off the press-release.

hmm, just checked out futurebrands site. they don't mention the UPS logo yet. there's barely a comment about 'design' anywhere in fact they seem to be 'marketing, communications, strategists, and CEO's with a masters in finance? - perhaps they should outsource the visual aspects for their clients. the portfolio is very weird, thousands of bignames and a jpg of the ID, but I doubt they designed them...the blurb underneath dosen't say they did, but they post the ID?

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trae

The new UPS logo is aggressive- looking?

Now I'm seeing it, but my first reaction was that it reminded me of the dippity-do hair on the Big Boy burger guy...

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Joe Pemberton

Regarding their longwinded PR justifying the design... I'm
sure this is aimed at satisfying the investors--not design
critics.

Futurebrand's fee will be miniscule compared to the truck-
loads of money (ahem, wordplay intended) required to
redo their liveries, signage, packaging, stationery, etc, etc.
I'm sure their investors are wary of that kind of spending in
the current economy.

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aquatoad

I've heard many points about how bad the
new design is. There's the 3D, the "swoosh",
the overused type... oh the horror.

I've heard very little about what made the old
logo "good." Apart from the fact that it was
designed by St. Paul.

Of course I'm playing devil's advocate here.
But in my opinoin, it could be a lot worse
(Verizon). The same uproar happened in the
design community when AT&T 3D'd their
already 3D looking 2D logo. I would say in
both cases, they are still effective logos.
Mainly because both companies are willing
to implement their new logos with incredible
consistency at incredible expense. It may
not be better, but still servicable.

Randy

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kojo

If Rand wasn't happy with it, then why dwell on it? Obviously he did not like it. And I would tend to agree with his opinion first. It was a poor decision for UPS to accept the first logo and similar dedcision making on this new one too.

I don't care for the new one either, but the string HAD to go. When was the last time any of us saw a package with string? In the industry that UPS and FEDEX are in I can see how any reference to the "old" or "archaic" would be a bad thing. No matter how much we as designers may like the traditional.

But I am interested to see how they translate the new logo to one color printing. Or even two color. That element of Rand's original that made the old logo so universal.

I had also heard that the reason that UPS went with the color brown in the first place was legal. I forget the details I heard, but UPS was required (legally somehow) to "down-play" their presence. Can anyone recall this legal issue?

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