lore Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Eccellente Rinaldo! Your words have been added successfully. And what's that Pizza still doing in the French list? ; )
Alessandro Segalini Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Amusing and useful stuff in here, today a girl told me I was looking "dapper" in my suit/jean combo, I didn't know that word, I looked up later, so here is my Italian contribution for today : dappertutto, Dappertutto, DAPPERTUTTO (everywhere ; on all sides ; all over the place).
Marc C Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 tu-peux-tu me caller un tow-truck, mon motor a stallé Ho my god !!!! Yes Pizza is also french What is the code to do small caps ? Thanks
Miss Tiffany Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Ok, ok. :^D I understand that the word "pizza" is used in other languages. :^D My perception of this thread is to find stereotypically Portuguese, French, Italian, etc. words. That's all.
Jongseong Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 I'll contribute some Swahili, a language rich in double vowels (but not in double consonants) and letter combinations rare in European languages. Final consonants are rare. Except in loanwords, the only double consonants as far as I can tell occur word-initially when nasal prefixes m or n attach to roots beginning with the same letter. A: a'a, A'a, A'A / maandazi, Maandazi, MAANDAZI / alaa, Alaa, ALAA B: bawabu, Bawabu, BAWABU / mtumbwi, Mtumbwi, MTUMBWI / dhoruba, Dhoruba, DHORUBA CH: chungwa, Chungwa, CHUNGWA / mchanga, Mchanga, MCHANGA / pichi, Pichi, PICHI D: domofupi, Domofupi, DOMOFUPI / jaddi, Jaddi, JADDI / nakupenda, Nakupenda, NAKUPENDA DH: dhidi, Dhidi, DHIDI / aliorodhesha, Aliorodhesha, ALIORODHESHA / forodha, Forodha, FORODHA E: egesha, Egesha, EGESHA / chenye, Chenye, CHENYE / pekee, Pekee, PEKEE F: fofofo, Fofofo, FOFOFO / kifafa, Kifafa, KIFAFA G: genge, Genge, GENGE / mgonjwa, Mgonjwa, MGONJWA / siagi, Siagi, SIAGI GH: ghadhabu, Ghadhabu, GHADHABU / lugha, Lugha, LUGHA H: harambee, Harambee, HARAMBEE / mahali, Mahali, MAHALI / sahihi, Sahihi, SAHIHI I: ifikapo, Ifikapo, IFIKAPO / kijiji, Kijiji, KIJIJI / hii, Hii, HII J: jambo, Jambo, JAMBO / kijivu, Kijivu, KIJIVU / mhudumiaji, Mhudumiaji, MHUDUMIAJI K: kamusi, Kamusi, KAMUSI / kumbuka, Kumbuka, KUMBUKA / tonik, Tonik, TONIK KH: khanga, Khanga, KHANGA / alkhamisi, Alkhamisi, ALKHAMISI L: lalamika, Lalamika, LALAMIKA / mlango, Mlango, MLANGO / halisi, Halisi, HALISI / wasili, Wasili, WASILI M: matatu, Matatu, MATATU / mswaki, Mswaki, MSWAKI / mjini, Mjini, MJINI / mmoja, Mmoja, MMOJA / hamjambo, Hamjambo, HAMJAMBO / jahanum, Jahanum, JAHANUM N: nasahau, Nasahau, NASAHAU / nne, Nne, NNE / pwani, Pwani, PWANI NG: ngoja, Ngoja, NGOJA / nyingi, Nyingi, Nyingi NG': ng'arange, Ng'arange, NG'ARANGE / kereng'ende, Kereng'ende, KERENG'ENDE NY: nyama, Nyama, NYAMA / maonyesho, Maonyesho, MAONYESHO / mung'unye, O: omba, Omba, OMBA / wanaoondoka, Wanaoondoka, WANAOONDOKA / uso, Uso, USO / vyoo, Vyoo, VYOO P: polepole, Polepole, POLEPOLE / plagi, Plagi, PLAGI / upepo, Upepo, UPEPO R: rafiki, Rafiki, RAFIKI / perere, Perere, PERERE S: sungura, Sungura, SUNGURA / mstari, Mstari, MSTARI / yabis, Yabis, YABIS SH: sherehe, Sherehe, SHEREHE / nakshi, Nakshi, NAKSHI T: taulo, Taulo, TAULO / treni, Treni, TRENI / yogat, Yogat, YOGAT TH: thelathini, Thelathini, THELATHINI / urithi, Urithi, URITHI U: upuuzi, Upuuzi, UPUUZI / funguo, Funguo, FUNGUO / madafu, Madafu, MADAFU V: vijana, Vijana, VIJANA / unyevunyevu, Unyevunyevu, UNYEVUNYEVU W: walikuwa, Walikuwa, WALIKUWA / kumwabudu, Kumwabudu, KUMWABUDU / naelewa, Naelewa, NAELEWA Y: yoyote, Yoyote, YOYOTE / nsya, Nsya, NSYA / peya, Peya, PEYA Z: zafarani, Zafarani, ZAFARANI / wazazi, Wazazi, WAZAZI
lore Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 Dapper! You must be kidding. Dappertutto has been added. We still need to fill those blanks though. Be patient, Eben. We're getting there :)
Quincunx Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 Almost finished a Dutch list. Will post it soon.
peterj Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 Here's ä couple of Swedish ones for you all; enjoy. A andra Andra ANDRA luciaafton Luciaafton LUCIAAFTON B bål Bål BÅL aladåb Aladåb ALADÅB krabba Krabba KRABBA C citron Citron CITRON cognac Cognac COGNAC acceptera Acceptera ACCEPTERA D död Död DÖD rädda Rädda RÄDDA E eller Eller ELLER inte Inte INTE skeende Skeende SKEENDE F för För FÖR räffla Räffla RÄFFLA biograf Biograf BIOGRAF G glid Glid GLID flög Flög FLÖG rygga Rygga RYGGA H hjul Hjul HJUL affisch Affisch AFFISCH hihhulit Hihhulit HIHHULIT I ingen Ingen INGEN galleri Galleri GALLERI J jogga Jogga JOGGA hoj Hoj HOJ nojja nojja K kök Kök KÖK bankkonto Bankkonto BANKKONTO L lagom Lagom LAGOM hål Hål HÅL rulla Rulla RULLA M måttlig Måttlig MÅTTLIG om Om OM hemma Hemma HEMMA N nål Nål NÅL fin Fin FIN ränna Ränna RÄNNA O orsak Orsak ORSAK ro Ro RO kooperativ Kooperativ KOOPERATIV oomstridlig Oomstridlig OOMSTRIDLIG P prål Prål PRÅL läpp Läpp LÄPP hälla Hälla HÄLLA Q quisling Quisling QUISLING R röta Röta RÖTA år År ÅR knorr Knorr KNORR S sliten Sliten SLITEN flås Flås FLÅS kassa Kassa KASSA T tokig Tokig TOKIG söt Söt SÖT rätta Rätta RÄTTA U Uv Uv UV fru Fru FRU bastuugn Bastuugn BASTUUGN V väta Väta VÄTA håv Håv HÅV avväga Avväga AVVÄGA X xylofon Xylofon XYLOFON kex Kex KEX yxa Yxa YXA Y yngre Yngre YNGRE dy Dy DY Z zon Zon ZON jazz Jazz JAZZ Å åsamka Åsamka ÅSAMKA grå Grå GRÅ råå Råå RÅÅ Ä älska Älska ÄLSKA fä Fä FÄ Ö öl Öl ÖL kö Kö KÖ insjööring Insjööring INSJÖÖRING
mili Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 Peter, what does "hihhulit" mean in Swedish? In Finnish it is a plural of religious fanatics. Another familiar word was kassa, which I think has the same meaning. And I can guess what rännä means, we have ränni in Finnish (obvious influence from Swedish). My school Swedish is a bit rusty.
Jongseong Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 I'm guessing hihhulit must be a loanword from Finnish, one of the few that went in that direction. It doesn't look like a native Swedish word. I do know kassa means "cashbox" or "cashier's", which we were always confusing with kasse ("bag") all the time in Swedish class when we were talking about shopping situations.
rs_donsata Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 This could only happen in typophile, wow... Héctor
ebensorkin Posted February 16, 2007 Author Posted February 16, 2007 I am so happy.... Brian & Peter Thank You! Looking forward to the Dutch! Matthew, thanks for the explanation! Eben : Holler if you want French words with accents. Pretty please, with sugar on top!
Quincunx Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Dutch list of words. - starting - middle - ending Sometimes I added more then one, seperated with a slash. I'll make changes when I find something better. Aa: - achterhoede, Achterhoede, ACHTERHOEDE - aandraaien, Aandraaien, AANDRAAIEN - nota, Nota, NOTA Bb: - blindganger, Blindganger, BLINDGANGER - liefhebber, Liefhebber, LIEFHEBBER / dubbelganger, Dubbelganger, DUBBELGANGER - achterkwab, Achterkwab, ACHTERKWAB Cc: - citroengras, Citroengras, CITROENGRAS - accentuatie, Accentuatie, ACCENTUATIE / accijns, Accijns, ACCIJNS - goocheltruc, Goocheltruc, GOOCHELTRUC Dd: - deftigheid, Deftigheid, DEFTIGHEID - aanbidding, Aanbidding, AANBIDDING - mogelijkheid, Mogelijkheid, MOGELIJKHEID Ee: - edelman, Edelman, EDELMAN - eenvoudig, Eenvoudig, EENVOUDIG / gereedschap, Gereedschap, GEREEDSCHAP - archeologie, Archeologie, ARCHEOLOGIE Ff: - fonkelnieuw, Fonkelnieuw, FONKELNIEUW - voltreffer, Voltreffer, VOLTREFFER - muilkorf, Muilkorf, MUILKORF / potscherf, Potscherf, POTSCHERF Gg: - gelegenheidsdichter, Gelegenheidsdichter, GELEGENHEIDSDICHTER - burggraaf, Burggraaf, BURGGRAAF - stichting, Stichting, STICHTING Hh: - huichelarij, Huichelarij, HUICHELARIJ - pochhans, Pochhans, POCHHANS - gejuich, Gejuich, GEJUICH Ii: - inlichtingen, Inlichtingen, INLICHTINGEN - vergroeiing, Vergroeiing, VERGROEIING - historici, Historici, HISTORICI / drieërlei, Drieërlei, DRIEËRLEI / armelui, Armelui, ARMELUI Jj: - jonkheer, Jonkheer, JONKHEER - pijjekker, Pijjekker, PIJJEKKER - ijsvrij, IJsvrij, IJSVRIJ Kk: - kunstacademie, Kunstacademie, KUNSTACADEMIE - klokken, Klokken, KLOKKEN - boekblok, Boekblok, BOEKBLOK Ll: - luwte, Luwte, LUWTE - schillen, Schillen, SCHILLEN - gasbel, Gasbel, GASBEL Mm: - metgezel, Metgezel, METGEZEL - rammelen, Rammelen, RAMMELEN - schim, Schim, SCHIM Nn: - nijverheid, Nijverheid, NIJVERHEID - nonnen, Nonnen, NONNEN - tevreden, Tevreden, TEVREDEN Oo: - oranjeboom, Oranjeboom, ORANJEBOOM - hoogleraar, Hoogleraar, HOOGLERAAR - halmstro, Halmstro, HALMSTRO Pp: - plempen, Plempen, PLEMPEN - maatschappij, Maatschappij, MAATSCHAPPIJ - vakmanschap, Vakmanschap, VAKMANSCHAP Qq: - queeste, Queeste, QUEESTE (none, but I added a word that has been adopted and changed) - none (middle) - none (ending) Rr: - rots, Rots, ROTS / ruzie, Ruzie, RUZIE - voorraad, Voorraad, VOORRAAD / scharrel, Scharrel, SCHARREL - bevelhebber, Bevelhebber, BEVELHEBBER Ss: - scharminkel, Scharminkel, SCHARMINKEL / scherp, Scherp, SCHERP - bessen, Bessen, BESSEN / passen, Passen, PASSEN / beslissing, Beslissing, BESLISSING - fles, Fles, FLES Tt: - terecht, Terecht, TERECHT / terloops, Terloops, TERLOOPS - schatting, Schatting, SCHATTING - gezicht, Gezicht, GEZICHT Uu: - uitzondering, Uitzondering, UITZONDERING / uitleg, Uitleg, UITLEG - buurt, Buurt, BUURT / bestuur, Bestuur, BESTUUR - kenau, Kenau, KENAU Vv: - vandaag, Vandaag, VANDAAG / vechten, Vechten, VECHTEN - none (middle) - none (ending) Ww: - wikkel, Wikkel, WIKKEL / woeker, Woeker, WOEKER - nieuwbouwwijk, Nieuwbouwwijk, NIEUWBOUWWIJK - vrouw, Vrouw, VROUW / zenuw, Zenuw, ZENUW Xx: - xantippe, Xantippe, XANTIPPE (probably adopted from somewhere) - none (middle) - none (ending) Yy: - yuppie, Yuppie, YUPPIE (probably adopted aswell) - none (middle) - none (ending) Zz: - zacht, Zacht, ZACHT / ziekenhuis, Ziekenhuis, ZIEKENHUIS - barentszzee, Barentszzee, BARENTSZZEE - none (ending)
Quincunx Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Noble or aristocratic man. Not sure how to translate, because 'nobleman' translates to 'jonkheer', which is also in my list.
Grot Esqué Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 It’s the last name of a finnish singer/actor. It doesn’t mean anything in Finnish, so I guess it’s of dutch origin then.
bennat Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Hi everybody! This is my first post, here goes an attempt for basque. All the words from the list are correctly spelled, but I have inserted some notes: (!) rare, not natural basque formation (*) only found in loan words (?) non-existent Aa: anitz, Anitz, ANITZ haatik, Haatik, HAATIK kexa, Kexa, KEXA Bb: bazter, Bazter, BAZTER * hobby, Hobby, HOBBY ! klub, Klub, KLUB Cc: (*) * curriculum, Curriculum, CURRICULUM * accesit, Accesit, ACCESIT * picnic, Picnic, PICNIC Dd: dzanga, Dzanga, DZANGA onddo, Onddo, ONDDO * polaroid, Polaroid, POLAROID Ee: etxebizitza, Etxebizitza, ETXEBIZITZA besteen, Besteen, BESTEEN hiltzaile, Hiltzaile, HILTZAILE Ff: finantza, Finantza, FINANTZA * graffiti, Graffiti, GRAFFITI * naif, Naif, NAIF Gg: gaingabetu, gaingabetu, GAINGABETU * reggae, Reggae, REGGAE * tuareg, Tuareg, TUAREG Hh: haizea, Haizea, HAIZEA ? * cromlech, Cromlech, CROMLECH Ii: inurri, Inurri, INURRI ! xiismo, Xiismo, XIISMO aizkolari, Aizkolari, AIZKOLARI Jj: jai, Jai, JAI ? ? Kk: katamixar, Katamixar, KATAMIXAR * trekking, Trekking, TREKKING nork, Nork, NORK Ll: lege, Lege, LEGE gerrillari, Gerrillari, GERRILLARI otsail, Otsail, OTSAIL Mm: mahats, Mahats, MAHATS ! kommutagailu, Kommutagailu, KOMMUTAGAILU * vademecum, Vademecum, VADEMECUM Nn: naiz, Naiz, NAIZ ! konnotazio, Konnotazio, KONNOTAZIO daudenean, Daudenean, DAUDENEAN Ññ: ñimiño, Ñimiño, ÑIMIÑO ? ? Oo: ortzadar, Ortzadar, ORTZADAR ! koofizial, Koofizial, KOOFIZIAL asto, Asto, ASTO Pp: putz, Putz, PUTZ * hippy, Hippy, HIPPY * jeep, Jeep, JEEP Qq: (*) ! qatartar, Qatartar, QATARTAR ? ? Rr: ! razional, Razional, RAZIONAL karramarro, Karramarro, KARRAMARRO adar, Adar, ADAR Ss: saltoki, Saltoki, SALTOKI * mousse, Mousse, MOUSSE kirats, Kirats, KIRATS Tt: txantxa, Txantxa, TXANTXA kitto, Kitto, KITTO hainbat, Hainbat, HAINBAT Uu: urrezko, Urrezko, URREZKO * continuum, Continuum, CONTINUUM gu, Gu, GU Vv: (*) ! veneziar, Veneziar, VENEZIAR ? * leitmotiv, Leitmotiv, LEITMOTIV Ww: (*) ! waloiera, Waloiera, WALOIERA ? * bungalow, Bungalow, BUNGALOW Xx: xarmant, Xarmant, XARMANT ? panpox, Panpox, PANPOX Yy: (*) * yoga, Yoga, YOGA ? * chantilly, Chantilly, CHANTILLY Zz: zozoa, Zozoa, ZOZOA * puzzle, Puzzle, PUZZLE hankaz, Hankaz, HANKAZ Basque language has not written accents (N and Ñ being separate letters). Letter pairs representing one sound: LL, RR, TS, TZ, TX, TT, DD, DZ. IN is commonly used instead of Ñ (palatal N), and IL instead of LL (palatal L).
Kristina Drake Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Eben -- I will add accented words to my original list unless you want a separate list? K.
Goran Soderstrom Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Excellent idea, Eben! Very useful. Too bad someone beat me for the Swedish version ;-) Do you intend to document it someway later on, and post here – or should we just copy from this thread?
ebensorkin Posted February 17, 2007 Author Posted February 17, 2007 Kristina, I am happy to stick with your list of words except that I was thinking it might be ideal to have for instance a seprate a & aacute. Do you see what I mean? It means doubling up on the a ( or trippling?) depending on how many accents are used in french. Actually you can find ( I think...) an authoritative list here: http://www.eki.ee/letter/ Looking there just now I see that we do need 3 'a' entries for french. We need an acircumflex too! The eki resource can be used to check your list or test somebody else's. Libraries that have dictionaries, translating dictionaries, are good for searching for words. And then there are online sources too. If we end up missing a langauge I will use those sources to fill in that langauge. Goran, yes I do intend to collect the examples and if needed correct or add to them because I or anybody else may have left something out or made some sort of error. When there are a good number of them and they are reasonbaly finnished and share formatting I will try to find a place to keep them. Maybe Typophile will do that - they could live in the wiki maybe - or maybe I will see if the diacritics project will do it or maybe eki will. Certainly I will email the complete text to anybody who asks. And I may be able to serve it from a web site of my own. The main consideration as far as I am concerned is that we maintain this effort as a shared resource freely distributed and kept safe from being hijacked or copyrighted by somebody so it becomes unsharable. I also expect that people may want to make derivative works and even keep those to themselves. I don't have a problem with that as long as they don't impinge on our right to share our own versions with each other.
fontality Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Hi everybody. Looks like a cool project. Here's a german version of the list. I included the three accented letters ä, ö, ü and the former ligature ß. Feel free to correct, add, etc... A analyse, Analyse, ANALYSE bankettsaal, Bankettsaal, BANKETTSAAL dingsda, Dingsda, DINGSDA Ä äffisch, Äffisch, ÄFFISCH (ä in the beginning is really rare) märchen, Märchen, MÄRCHEN (no ää exists) - (no german word ends on ä) B belletristik, Belletristik, BELLETRISTIK ebbe, Ebbe, EBBE zauberstäbe, Zauberstäbe, ZAUBERSTÄBE C chirurg, Chirurg, CHIRURG taschenbuch, Taschenbuch, TASCHENBUCH (no cc) - D druckerei, Druckerei, DRUCKEREI paddel, Paddel, PADDEL strand, Strand, STRAND E einheitlich, Einheitlich, EINHEITLICH entleeren, Enteeren, ENTLEEREN stausee, Stausee, STAUSEE F frieden, Frieden, FRIEDEN Schifffahrt, Schifffahrt, SCHIFFFAHRT kaff, Kaff, KAFF G Großeltern, Großeltern, GROSSELTERN (No capital ß exists) roggenbrot, Roggenbrot, ROGGENBROT gesang, Gesang, GESANG H hochhaus, Hochhaus, HOCHHAUS suchhund, Suchhund, SUCHHUND reh, Reh, REH I insel, Insel, INSEL liiert, Liiert, LIIERT mami, Mami, MAMI J januar, Januar, JANUAR verjüngung, Verjüngung, VERJÜNGUNG - K krönung, Krönung, KRÖNUNG mokka, Mokka, MOKKA (no kk in words of german origin) gestank, Gestank, GESTANK L leidenschaft, Leidenschaft, LEIDENSCHAFT keller, Keller, KELLER tal, Tal, TAL M musikakademie, Musikakademie, MUSIKAKADEMIE kammer, Kammer, KAMMER schlemmen, Schlemmen, SCHLEMMEN N name, Name, NAME kenner, Kenner, KENNER mann, Mann, MANN O offenbarung, Offenbarung, OFFENBARUNG boot, Boot, BOOT so, So, SO Ö öffentlichkeit, Öffentlichkeit, ÖFFENTLICHKEIT böse, Böse, BÖSE (no öö) - P pappnase, Pappnase, PAPPNASE klappe, Klappe, KLAPPE kap, Kap, KAP Q quelle, Quelle, QUELLE erquickend, Erquickend, ERQUICKEND (no qq) - R rahmen, Rahmen, RAHMEN rohrreiniger, Rohrreiniger, ROHRREINIGER über, Über, ÜBER S steuern, Steuern, STEUERN tasse, Tasse, TASSE gras, Gras, GRAS ß - größe, Größe, GRÖSSE (no capital ß) maß, Maß, MASS T traum, Traum, TRAUM trittbrett, Trittbrett, TRITTBRETT anstatt, Anstatt, ANSTATT U unruhe, Unruhe, UNRUHE stauung, Stauung, STAUUNG frau, Frau, FRAU Ü überraschung, Überraschung, ÜBERRASCHUNG tüte, Tüte, TÜTE - V veilchen, Veilchen, VEILCHEN revolution, Revolution, REVOLUTION (no vv) brav, Brav, BRAV W wochenende, Wochenende, WOCHENENDE gewitter, Gewitter, GEWITTER (no ww) - X xylophon, Xylophon, XYLOPHON luxus, Luxus, LUXUS (no xx) - Y yeti, Yeti, YETI zylinder, Zylinder, ZYLINDER (no yy) - Z zeitzeichen, Zeitzeichen, ZEITZEICHEN schutzzoll, Schutzzoll, SCHUTZZOLL notiz, Notiz, NOTIZ
bennat Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 I have edited my basque list, because I misplaced JEEP in double J, instead of being in final P. It is corrected now. I have completed the most part of the list myself, and searched for difficult or loan words in an online basque/spanish dictionary, plus another webpage searching basque texts from the 20th century. The eki resource gives also Ç and Ü as characters needed to write basque. However, it seems to be an error there: c, q, v, w, y only occur in foreign words and are not considered part of the alphabet. As they are needed to write foreign words, they are considered part of the basque alphapet (noted by the Academy of Basque Language). Ü is never used in standard basque (it has been historically used to represent a sound from a specific dialect, non existent in the so-called "unified basque"). Ç is considered as a variant of C, and following the online dictionary it only appears in the loan word "curaçao". I truly like the idea of maintaining this list as a freely distributed shared resource.
peterj Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 mili and jongseong, yeah hihhulit is definitely a Finnish loan, though the -it is singular in Swedish--plural would be -iter; since it is in the Swedish Academy lexicon (SAOB), I figured I'd put it in there for completeness. I never thought about the kassa/kasse (or just kass (also=worthless)) confusion, but I can imagine it being tough for a nonnative speaker. Maybe not as tough as those 13 cases to keep track of in Finnish, but still...
Quincunx Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Talking about 'kassa'. Thats also the Dutch word for cashier's.
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