Member hra… Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Still no Apache. How come? hhp Link to comment
Member Ric… Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The Droid fonts were "professionally" done - commisioned by Google. Released under the Apache license. Link to comment
Member hra… Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I know. Same with Roboto. Reynir's list is what I was wondering about. hhp Link to comment
Member Chr… Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 @Dan Gayle: “The URW++ fonts.” I gave the site a look. Can you be more specific? Link to comment
Member Té… Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Correction for last night's braino... Typeface: Jivita Fonts: 4: Rg/RgI/Bd/BdI Foundry: Association for Insight Meditation Home: http://www.softerviews.org/ Version: 1.30 Format: TTF Licensing: GPL Designer: Bhikkhu Pesala Description: Sans-serif, dash of Eurostile, rest crazy weird Link to comment
Member Té… Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Waal, man, rustlin' Injuns is wrathly unenlightened. Link to comment
Member gar… Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Full update to the AIM list... two faces dropped Hmm, what's up with that? One of the two fonts, Carita, seemed to be a quality digitization of Carolus, which is commercially unavailable and comes up periodically on the Type ID board (most recent thread here). The only reason given by the AIM fonts website: "Carita and Hattha were withdrawn as they will no longer be updated to match my other fonts." They also request others not to host or redistribute their fonts, which seems contradictory to the GNU license under which they're released. Link to comment
Member gar… Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 @Chris: I assume Dan was referring to the Ghostscript fonts that were contributed to the project by URW. Link to comment
Member qua… Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 @Té Rowan: Since redistribution of Jivita is not allowed, it may be free, but it isn't open-source. Link to comment
Member alt… Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 @gargoyle / @Chris : There are two sets of URW++ open source fonts. The Ghostscript fonts are available under either GPL or AFPL; the GhostPCL fonts are AFPL only, which is technically open source but not copyleft (as it restricts commercial use). A while ago I put some PDF samples of the two URW++ sets together. Might as well link them here. GPL Ghostscript fonts: http://www.altsan.org/fontinfo/urw_ps.pdf AFPL GhostPCL fonts: http://www.altsan.org/fontinfo/urw_pcl.pdf Link to comment
Member Té… Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I am going with the assumption that by 'his fonts', Pesala means the unmodified files as downloaded from softerviews, so were I to rename them, they'd be my fonts (and my responsibility) thereafter. And with Carita officially paid off, it's open to forking by anyone willing to shower it with TLC and updates. Link to comment
Member hra… Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 it's open to forking There are at least two reasons not to be so cavalier: 1) The "designer" (using the term loosely - see #2) apparently doesn't want you to. 2) It's based on a design that's not necessarily an orphan: https://typography.guru/forums/topic/108434-forwarding BTW, it's not really "your font" unless you made it yourself. And even then you owe the people who came before you. hhp Link to comment
Member Té… Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Remember, Carita's base licence is the GPL. And the GPL springs out of Hacker Tradition. Pesala asks elsewhere that if you modify and re-release the font(s), that you change the name as well. Ya gotta read all of the FAQ. Link to comment
Member Kar… Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 And the GPL springs out of Hacker Tradition This Hacker Tradition? : ) Link to comment
Member hra… Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Reynir, I fail to see how you addressed either of my two points. hhp Link to comment
Member aba… Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 the GhostPCL fonts are AFPL only, which is technically open source but not copyleft (as it restricts commercial use). I'm pretty sure you'll find that a restriction on commercial use means its not open source any way you look at it. Link to comment
Member Té… Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 @Karl – The Jargon File and other docs at http://www.catb.org/~esr/ document the Hacker Tradition much better than I ever could. @hrant – Point #2 is currently extraneous, as far as OSity is concerned. Point #1: Pesala can only request that others not cache his fonts. The GPL disallows otherwise. RTFL. Link to comment
Member hra… Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 OSity? I thought we were talking about Carita. Pesala can request anything he wants, and you can do anything you want. Choose wisely. hhp Link to comment
Member qua… Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I don't think that the GPL disallows trademark rights, even if it disallows patent rights. Look at the case of CentOS and Scientific Linux vis-a-vis Red Hat Enterprise Linux, for example. Thus, "you can do anything you want", if one excludes things one would do which would create criminal or civil liability, is not strictly true. Link to comment
Member hra… Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I didn't say there are no consequences! :-) What I meant was that the way Pesala wants us to treat his work should at least be taken under advisement. hhp Link to comment
Member Té… Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 /me rolls eyes. OSity = Open Source status. That been said, it shall also be said that it's most important that you research the licence(s) from primary (at most secondary) sources. Those expecting me to be a competent source are so far beyond lost that even the Hubble Space Telescope couldn't find them. So there. Link to comment
Member Aha… Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I have compiled a font pack of open source licensed Unicode Hebrew script fonts. The font pack is available here. Most of the fonts in the font pack are licensed with the SIL OFL, GPL, or GPL+FE, although there are some other less well known licenses in there as well. Enjoy! Link to comment
Member hra… Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Are any of them under the Apache license? hhp Link to comment
Member hra… Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 http://typographica.org/features/our-favorite-typefaces-of-2012/ So, out of 54 selections there are a whopping total of... one open-source fonts. And that's by Adobe! "It's an evil Font Mafia CONSPIRACY, I tell you!!" hhp Link to comment
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