Member joe… Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 OK, Megmog, you want current or recent stuff only, right, not historical? Because if you want that there are old British books you can get via interlibrary loan; see my blog post. And you want exteriors, not interiors, right? If not, you could look at the Toronto subway, about which I have written a word or two. Right off the top of my head I can think of buildings in Toronto with let’s call them extruding or protruding metal letters that are clearly intended to be “architectural.” One set of such letters is, of course, in Arial. If you want a literal building-as-sign as comparison, Google the BMW building by the DVP on Sunlight Park in Toronto. I could go on. Hit me up directly for more. — Joe Clarkhttp://joeclark.org/ Link to comment
Member meg… Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 OK, Megmog, you want current or recent stuff only, right, not historical? Yep that's right, I'll look into the historical stuff as background but I really want to concentrate on more recent developments, see if there are any trends emerging etc. I've got the books you talk about in your blog so found it pretty interesting! And you want exteriors, not interiors, right? Again, I might look at a couple of interiors as sort of background, but I am definitely concentrating on exterior. Most of the interior uses of typography in buildings that I've found are just wayfinding systems on a larger scale, which is a whole other topic that an undergraduate dissertation doesn't really have the word count for! In the pics I found for the BMW building in Toronto it used images but not typography, and I really need to look at typography in architecture. Like with the interiors/exteriors I need to focus otherwise it'll be too big a topic if I start looking at general graphics on buildings too. Thanks for your help Joe. Link to comment
Member Ric… Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I'm sure The Wales Millennium Centre has been discussed on typophile.com Link to comment
Member Tim… Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I highly recommend Peter Hall's 'Living skins: Architecture as interface':http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/thinktank/livingskins/ In his article are some sophisticated thoughts about the role of type in architecture but he does not go into detail about the actual typography. And he is right because his thoughts are independent of the typographic details. I also thought about writing my dissertation about typography and architecture and found that this is the main problem: Some people treat the architectural role of type while (rightly) ignoring the details. Others, like those who write about lettering, care about the actual letter shapes but not (or only superficially) about the architectural context. At least, I haven't found anything. If you manage to actually connect both on a sophisticated level that would be ground breaking and very impressive as far as I am concerned. Link to comment
Member meg… Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 Yes Tim I think you're definitely right, what books and articles I have found are all about the letters themselves and not about the impact the type has on the building, bit frustrating! Link to comment
Member rus… Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Are you interested in failed attempts as well as successes? There is a building north of Toronto, (between Hwy 7 and Langstaff, visible from the 400) that has a huge and hideous "A". The space under the cross bar is the main entry. The narrow stroke is on the wrong side and it is just clumsy looking. I don't have a photo, If you like I'll snap one next time I drive past it. R Link to comment
Member meg… Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 Definitely. I think it would be really interesting to look at both good and bad examples and then try to work out why it is or isn't successful. That would be fabulous if you could take a photo, that's very nice of you! Another thing that is quite interesting in terms of 'bad examples' is looking at buildings that have changed their use since the type was originally done. There's a department store in Reading that still has 'Heelas', its old name, embedded in the brick. It's an argument against using typography that is more integral to the building perhaps, although in a way it's quite interesting as it shows the building's history... Link to comment
Member chr… Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hi megmog, I have just started my MPhil/PhD by project at the Department of Architecture of the Royal College of Arts and my topic is exactly the same as yours. I call it 'Typotecture: typographic elements applied to architectural design'. I started carrying out research on it while I was doing my undergraduate studies in Greece (5 years ago). At that period, I tried to define typotecture, record and analyse its history with emphasis to contemporary examples (using many of the ones listed above) and evaluate it. At the RCA, my intention is to develop it further, especially in practice using current digital tools (scripting, 3d modeling, rapid prototyping). In my opinion, one of the 'good examples' of typotecture - maybe the best - is the Marion Cultural Centre in Australia (last picture), where the boundaries between typography and architecture become blurred. It is one of the few cases where a visitor trying to read the name (semantics) of the building ends up reading the structure of it. As you have already noticed, the information for this subject is limited and fragmentated, but this should be a reason for you to continue and not be frustrated! Keep up the research!!! I'll be in touch! chrisostomost Link to comment
Member meg… Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Hi Chrisostomost, It's great to find someone else looking at this too! And you're right, the Marion Cultural Centre really is a great example of 'typotecture'. I'm speaking to my dissertation tutor in couple of days so hopefully will have some more to work on after that. It would be great to hear some more from you on this if you have any more examples... Thanks. Link to comment
Member joe… Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I should have remembered this one: The abortion that is the University of Toronto Graduate Students(’) Residence at Harbord & Spadina. From _Details in Contemporary Architecture_, Caltrans District 7 HQ by Gruen. — Joe Clarkhttp://joeclark.org/ Link to comment
Member Jen… Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 The Seattle Public Library does a great job with "supergraphics" but my favorite element is the raised wooden floor. Visitors actually tread around upon inverted raised letterforms as is if they're on a ginat tray of movable type; it's really pretty cool. You'll have to look very closely at the image. Link to comment
Member rl… Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 The Sherman Oaks Galleria has a gorgeous forty foot high lower case g] engraved into the side of the building facing the freeway: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17185596@N00/125474671 At night is it illuminated and looks absolutely stunning. Sorry I couldn't find a better picture to put it in perspective. Has anyone else seen this in LA? Link to comment
Member Car… Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Im studying at the University of Canterbury in New Zealand and I was wondering if you had completed your dissertation yet as i am also researching the relationship between architecture and typography. I would be really interested in reading what you have completed, and in any other links that would be of use in regards to this topic, other than the ones through out the discussion above. I have been reading a book called "Forms of Inquiry- the architecture of critical graphic design' edited by Zak Kyes and Mark Owens which may also be of use to you. Link to comment
Member ale… Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I am a grad student at California College of the Arts and am just beginning my research on the same subject- I'll post anything new that I find as well! so exciting! Link to comment
Member Car… Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'm studying Architecture at the TU Delft in the Netherlands and currently working on the same subject for my graduation. I'm especially focussing on history and the use of the alphabet in the overall design of the building: I've found a lot on Italian futurism (Depero, Monza Book pavilion) but I am looking for more examples of for instance early functionalism. I will post my final report. I'm also really interested in your results. When you're finished already, can you post your final result? Good luck! Link to comment
Member mic… Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Exclusive typography in subways/metros: http://mic-ro.com/metro/metrofonts.html Link to comment
Member din… Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I've seen this topic is almost asleep. Pity Maybe this should be seen too:http://www.whynotassociates.com/en/environmental.php together withhttp://www.gordonyoung.net/ also this, from a different angle, going together with Steingruber:http://www.spamula.net/blog/2006/09/basolis_alphabet_1.htmlhttp://www.architecture.com/HowWeBuiltBritain/HistoricalPeriods/TudorsAn...http://southeasternarchitecture.blogspot.com/2008/10/building-by-letters... Link to comment
Member And… Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I too did once a diploma on type and architecture. See http://blog.naver.com/pamina7776/50010671643 . Link to comment
Member Hbo… Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 The landscape architects I work for were involved in a project for the Lowther Children's Centre with large scale lettering in timber. The architects were Patel Taylor who, I believe, specified the type. Looks like a nice for the little ones to run around.http://www.plincke.com/projects/education/primary/lowther-childrens-centre/http://www.flickr.com/photos/46526683@N03/4271911628/ Reminds me also of the monolithic Arsenal letters at the Emirates Stadium at Ashburton Grove used as a meeting point and creates a sense of welcome.http://www.flickr.com/photos/toxophilite/540204198/ The Hackney Empire extension is a great one as the block letters seem to float in the air in front of the south elevation as you view from Mare Street.http://www.flickr.com/photos/albedo/152261787/ Link to comment
Member yus… Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 hi this is Jon. I'm a Graphic Design masters student at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. I'm doing my thesis on the same topic too. I'm concentrating more on typography. Thanks for sharing these images, and I'll share the interesting things that I find. Link to comment
Member Art… Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Karin Polder did a very nice job at the Royal Library in the Hague, using the jagged facade of the building to split up the lettering, I'll have to say it looks best when you look at it straight ahead. http://www.karenpolder.nl/detail.php?id=30 Link to comment
Member cer… Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Torres de Hercules. It's striking, but I question the decision to make the motto read only horizontally, with the rows offset at random, so that all you can see on the vertical towers from any vantage point is gibberish. I would have used a one-step pattern like so: NONPLUSULTRA ONPLUSULTRAN NPLUSULTRANO PLUSULTRANON LUSULTRANONP USULTRANONPL SULTRANONPLU ULTRANONPLUS LTRANONPLUSU TRANONPLUSUL RANONPLUSULT ANONPLUSULTR Link to comment
Member Nic… Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 It's important to distinguish between type and letters. ** How about this for a 17th century sans serif?Felbrigg Hall, Norfolk Another: Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire Link to comment
Member And… Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 It may be worth trying to go a bit deeper into the relationship of lettering and building.http://www.google.de/images?q=Fachwerk&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:de:offic... . Link to comment
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